will work perfectly to allow a second shot. After that the laws of probability take over whether the gun, ammo, etc. Because when it comes down to it, you may only have one round for sure. While neither may be ideal, I would lean for a round that has a greater possibility of a one shoot stop. Plus, you can use more extreme types of ammo without having to make sure it will function reliably. And clearing a jam in the little semi's for some reason takes a little longer than with a larger 9mm or 45.Īmmo with the 38+P's is usually heavier than the 380's so if you don't get expansion, hopefully you will get penetration. While few and far between, I've had issues with the 380's with the snub having the advantage should ammo be the issue. ![]() Reliability, again in my case, the 38 has an edge. If you can double stack a 380, then you may as well consider a 9mm, even though you would probably loose round count.Īccuracy is not an issue with either, including my DAO 642, but making a quick grab and shooting, in my case, the 38 is quicker. I prefer the snub to the 380 even though I carry both depending on the circumstances. They can be fired from inside a coat pocket, especially hammerless or shrouded hammer models, and they will reliably cycle any type of ammunition they are loaded with I routinely carry a Ruger LCR loaded with shotshells while I'm working in the yard.Īs with anything related to concealed carry, there are tradeoffs involved. 38 Special in my mind, but there are certain applications where the. ![]() 380 ACP and a faster reload generally beats five or six rounds of. 380 ACP ballistically, and is at least theoretically capable of better terminal performance by virtue of its wider variety of loadings it's only real drawbacks are the limited capacity of revolvers designed for concealed carry and the ability to reload it quickly compared to a magazine-fed auto pistol. 380 somewhat obsolete for all but deep concealment and individuals who are extremely recoil averse IMO. Still, the modern crop of pocket pistols chambered in 9mm has made the. I gave up on the caliber as a viable self defense cartridge as a result, but modern bullet design has brought the. 380 FMJ that didn't penetrate his skull, and he walked into the ER under his own power. I can recall one patient who was shot in the forehead with a. I used to work in a trauma center back in the 90s and witnessed several spectacular failures of the. So flatter, lighter and higher capacity for the win, imho.Įdited to add: If anyone has a 38 Special round and a scale, let us know what a round weighs (also let us know what kind of round i.e. I'd say that is a substantial consideration to toss into the overall equation. So the LCP Max, even with the larger 12-round mag is going to be lighter than the lightest 'typical' 38 snub with 5-rounds. ![]() Going on that ballpark assumption, 5 rounds on top of the low end of 14 ounces will bring it up to 17 ounces for a snubby.probably a tad more depending on the brand/model and actual weight of 5 rounds of ammo. I'm going to assume that a 38 Special will weigh at least as much as a 40S&W. That is a ball park and will differ depending on bullet weight and other factors. 38 Special rounds to weigh but I have weighed 9mm & 40S&W. An air weight snubby is around 14-16 ounces give-or-take depending on the brand and model. That sounds about right from what I'm getting with my scale. The 'Firearmsguy' on YT has the LCP Max with 11 rounds at 14 5/8 ounces on his scale. So what would you prefer for a pocket pistol?Ĭlick to expand.So the LCP Max w/12-round mag will be about 15.3 ounces, the 10-round will be a tad less. And of course ball ammo will get good penetration.Īnd keep in mind that the LCP Max might start other companies putting out higher capacity. 380 ammo can suffer on the penetration front, but there are some round that will get acceptable to really good penetration (albeit at the cost of really good expansion normally). ![]() 380 really has to be considered in the equation. 38 in that it can have a heavier bullet (with the associated recoil). So putting the typical snub against the new Max.what would you choose, and why? 380 (either 10 or 12-round mags +1 in the chamber). Now we have the new Ruger LCP Max with either 11 or 13 rounds of. In that light, we have the typical 5-round snubby (or perhaps even a 6-round snub as there are a couple of those on the market). So I thought it may make an interesting 'versus' thread. One of the comments I made was that it brings the. Well a bunch of us have been chatting about Ruger's new LCP Max since yesterday.
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